Thursday, July 19, 2007

Life in Palm Meadows, Bangalore: A View From the Inside

On the day we headed back to the US, we had lived in Palm Meadows exactly one year. For a year and a half before that, we lived in one of Adarsh's other developments, Adarsh Palace, an apartment community in Jayanagar. We had heard a lot of good things about Palm Meadows and the quality of life and amenities, but the biggest attraction for us was that it would be close to our son's new school, Greenwood High.

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Palm Meadows is on Airport-Varthur Road close to Whitefield and Sarjapur, about 45 minutes away from MG Road and Jayanagar, and about 20 minutes away from The International School of Bangalore, Indus International School, Inventure Academy and Greenwood High. It is also close to Ryan International, Gopalan International School, Deccan International, GEAR Academy and India International.

It is a gated community of about 600 single family homes, with 10 or more security guards manning the gates at any given time. Some houses are big and some are small, but most houses have at least three bedrooms each. Residents of Palm Meadows are a mix of original owners, returning Indians and expats.

In terms of amenities, it has a club house (with three swimming pools including an indoor pool and a kiddie pool, two restaurants, a full-size gym, sauna, spa, salon, library, and indoor and outdoor children's play areas), three grocery stores (a convenience store and 24-Letter Mantra and Namdhari's, two organic food stores), two gift shops and a tea/coffee/juice shop. The community has 24-hour water and electricity supply.

The layout is beautifully conceived, each house has its own lawn areas, the roads are neatly paved with footpaths, landscaping in the common areas is lovely and the residents' association has hired a veritable army of gardeners and landscapers who painstakingly work every day to preserve the vibrant trees, flowers and plants that are local to the area. There are at least 12 varieties of palm trees within the community and the lawns are manicured - literally - at the hands of day laborers wielding scissors and squatting on their haunches on the grass.

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The clubhouse is a hub of activity in the community. There are swimming coaches on staff, tennis lessons, aerobics classes and Bollywood dance lessons are available. The community also has an arts center run by one of the residents that offers Indian classical dance lessons, piano/keyboard lessons and lessons in various other Indian musical instruments.

The streets within the community are filled with kids playing cricket or biking in the evening, mothers going for a walk with babies in strollers and with people walking or jogging in the early morning hours.

The main issues about life in Palm Meadows have to do with the rents and home prices, and cost and difficulty of hiring and retaining reliable, trustworthy domestic help.

When the community was first built close to 10 years ago, the original owners apparently bought the houses for around 80 lakhs. A few months before we left one of the houses had an asking price of 4.5 crores. Although there are many communities now coming up that are similar to Palm Meadows (Prestige Developers' Ozone, about five minutes away is one), the demand for housing and for the lifestyle Palm Meadows promises is mind-boggling.

The rents are not very far behind in terms of the shock factor. There are three resident real estate agents that have all the houses sewn up between them and manage to jack up rents to stratospheric levels. The rents are totally arbitrary (whatever the agent feels like quoting at that moment based on how desperate he or she thinks the renter is). The quote for the same house may have gone up by a few thousand rupees within a span of a few days. Most of their clients are expats, some of whom have no clue as to what is reasonable and what's not and will shell out whatever rent is demanded because they are in India for only a few days before they have to settle housing, schools, work-related issues, etc.

In fact, the situation is so good for home owners that many of them rent their houses out and they themselves go rent a house somewhere else in Bangalore because they make more money that way.

This air of a feeding frenzy pervades the domestic help market as well. The average drivers make is about Rs. 7,000/month. Some drivers make as much as Rs. 10,000/month, mostly working for expat employers. The situation is similar with the ladies that help with household chores. The minimum salary is about Rs. 2,000/month and sometimes as much as Rs. 6,000/month. It is not uncommon to find groups of drivers and other domestic helpers standing around discussing who's paying what and who's looking for helpers.

The section of the Palm Meadows population that is at the raw end of the deal is the group of returning Indians, most of them having purchased a house in Palm Meadows years ago and now are returning to an untenable situation.

Most residents feel that the problem is not with paying the domestic help the money (the economy is rewarding the high-tech sector, so why should the prosperity not trickle down?), but the fact that there is no assurance that you are getting reliable help. We discovered that our driver was making money on the side by using our car as a taxi service whenever the car was empty. And the way we discovered it was the police caught him and impounded the car for using a private car as a taxi. We also discovered later that he had come to us asking for a job although he was employed by one of the other residents. One day he just decided he wanted to make more money and started asking around and ditched his previous employer. They kept calling him for a week, they told me later, before one of their friends saw him at our house and they figured out what happened.

There are scores of similar stories. The issue is that there is a limited pool of helpers and now with Ozone already open for occupation, the situation is only going to get worse.

If you are aware of this issue and are prepared to stand your ground and deal with it and you are prepared to deal with traffic (especially over the Marathahalli Bridge, the only viable entrance to the Whitefield area from the rest of the city), Palm Meadows is a great place to live. It's a breath of fresh air, literally. I like to call it the bubble because it's so different from the rest of the city, but it's a very nice bubble.

Update:

1. Boo's comment to this post reminded me that I'd forgotten all about the service apartments and rooms in the clubhouse. Many companies have rented rooms (of which more were being built as we left) in the clubhouse for employees who transfer into their Bangalore offices for the short term.

2. One of the cons of living in a gated community like Palm Meadows, as a chat with Firang Squirrel, a friend and an expat from the US, reminded me, you totally miss out on the quintessential Bangalore - street hawkers selling fruits and veggies, kadle puri, the umbrella repair man and the knife grinder selling their services, etc. Of course, you also miss out on power cuts and water shortages. For now. Even Palm Meadows and other gated communities might not be able to avoid these in the near future if the expansion of the city keeps going at the current rate.

21 comments:

Tharini said...

Wow Suj...that looks like an awesome place. Love the neat landscaping. But seems terribly intimidating...

B o o said...

I was awed by Palm Meadows when I went to visit my BIL who was staying at the hotel there. And Im not surprised by the Driver and househelp salaries and their incompetence. I know maids who charge Rs.1500 even in the "ordinary" apartments and dont do much of a job. I have nt heard so many Maid complaints in Chennai as much as I have heard and experienced in Bangalore. Wonder why!

Mohan said...

Nice write up. Like Boo, I am not surprised by driver and maid salaries either. We pay Rs. 2,000 per month to our domestic help at JP Nagar and she is not that efficient or reliable either. For drivers, 5-6k is the minimum.

Terri said...

With the cookie cutter homes, palm trees and minivan parked in the driveway, this place looks like a neighborhood straight out of Calif.
I hope more of these master planned communities with strict HOAs crop up, and I hope all my relatives move into them before we visit.

Anonymous said...

sujatha:

so inviting, and yet so out of reach!

until i saw photos of the well-manicured infy campus a couple of years ago, i did not think that grass like that could be grown in india - no kidding!

would it not be inexpensive for the multinationals to build master planned communities in, say, poorer northern karnataka (bhalki maybe), and ferry employees both ways - daily - by helicopters or turbo-props?

- s.b. (i am only half joking!)

Anonymous said...

US $ 1.2 million for Bangalore real-estate is insane. Especially since all you get is a small sliver of green lawns, expensive help, and a pretend western lifestyle.

It doesn't add up :-)

Praba said...

I am not surprised by the maid salaries. But, what's shocking - the price tag on the homes - 4.5 crores for production homes with smallish lots - insane! Well, it's a package I guess - the amenities are amazing!

Sujatha said...

Tharini, more than intimidating, it was a royal pain in all the wrong places. :( Just so glad not to have to deal with all that stuff any more. :)

Boo, I think it's the explosion in lifestyles, salaries, etc. that is causing is dysfunction. Chennai hasn't seen nearly as much growth as B'lore has in the past few years.

Mohan, thanks for sharing the info.

Terri, good plan. :))

S.B. you might have hit upon an idea. If Bangalore keeps growing the way it has, the companies won't have a choice. Employees spend an hour to two hours in traffic each way any way.

Anon, agree.

Praba, that might have been for one of the larger houses, but it still does not add up.

Anonymous said...

It could be a suburb anywhere in the US. Its sad that India is losing it Indianess .....no cookie cutter houses for me !!!

Gopi said...

Enjoyed your Blog; just returned from Whitefield, Bangalore Oct. l0; saw India for the very fist time; LOVED most of the people there, so gentle, serene, open and warm hearted, loving. I felt really appreciated, cared about seen and heard for who I really was; I've always felt a stranger in a strange land in my country of origin, Canada! Naturally, then, I've been seriously wondering about MOVING to India - maily due to the very Indian consciousness itself, so spiritually attuned - I could feel in even in the AIR. Still, I am trying to dig up what the UNDERbelly of India is like - and finding out about colossal rental situations sounds like a part of it...surely there must be other rental or purchase housing situations that are very REASONABLE...love to have feedback. Thanks, Gopi

1112112-2456 said...

Trust me Gopi - don't move.As long as you are a visitor- everthing's cool.You miss this place- visit often. This is my suggestion.

Anonymous said...

Hi Gopi,
As a fellow canadian who's grown up there, I must say, I am where you may want to be in a year or two. After visiting India last year (not for the first time though but after four years) and travelling the country on my own I decided to pack my bags, leave my family in Canada and move down to Bangalore. And its been a year since then I'm loving it. Its always nice knowing that eventually I will go back to Canada but so far the experience has been great. Although I have felt at times that traffic and life is a bit of a pain compared to the nice and pampered life that I was used to, its nice to know that I can get out of the comfort zone and try new things. Wish you the best. I'd definitely recommend comign here and working for some time. But I'm still not sold on whether I want to live here for the rest of my life.

Anonymous said...

Hi Sujatha,
Yes, Palm meadows is a great place to live and chill out. I stayed there for a month last summer and could not have asked for anything better. The gym is superb and on a busy day there are only about 50-60 people using the facilities. And you get personal trainers at zero cost. However I found the tennis lessons a bit too xpensive. The spa is fantastic and the service grt. I just forgot all about my diet and ate a good breakfast every morning , reading with 2 news papers, uninterruptd for 2 hrs sitting in a quiet corner in the restaurant. But I had no salutes from the security guards as I was a poor little girl on the rich block, who walked about from home to club house, took BTS bus[it was really amazing] to reach the Coffee Day on the otherside[if not autos demanded rs 30 for less than a mile] You have brought out an interesting issue about the 3 ladies who would shed blood for a renter..I was lucky I guess, I found a renter in the club house and I quoted the most reasonable rent, based on the investment we have made, who were not too sure if I was okay, as I did not take any token advance. I must say, they are great and have done up the remaining fixtures and fittings for us under good supervision and ofcourse I managed to run from the scene before..I could get killed :) by the 3 agents...just joking.
However you need to consider living there only if
1. You have no relatives in other parts of bangalore
2. You really want to live undisturbed
3. enjoy good food in 5 star setting
4. Workout in unintruding environment
5. Enjoy the spa like a royal
All at reasonable rates, when you convert into your earning currency.

BangaloreBlues said...

But why the comments that everything is cool as long as I only visit? please can you leave me a lot more detail re: moving to Banglare, please do not leave me guessing! Remember, I was only there ONCE...

BangaloreBlues said...

I am getting the strong impression that asking people in India what India is really like is like asking my Canadian friends what I needed to pack for Bangalore - no two people said the same thing, most could NOT answer! And I am talking about those that were THERE for at least 6 months. I have not been really happy here back in Canada since my visit to India! I just have NO idea how to rent safely from this kind of a distance - I'd want a house in a gated community for safety - I wanted to rent ideally, in Whitefield as it is away from the crowds and cars...but maybe Bangalore IS the best place to rent - someone remarked about the unreliable maids who didn't even to a decent job - yes, that was MY experience, PLUS they seemed so nice at first, but all were not totally honest and did whatever they wanted, in spite of my clear and polite requests and instructions. REASON?? Maybe the zero education levels? Thanks.

dubaigod said...

It looks more like the place we live in dubai, emirtes hills, anyone interested to rent out any villa for one month from june...I am pretty sure, it will be less expensive than staying at Leela's where we usually stay...any comments welcome...thanks for the time...its a great site...cheers

Sujatha said...

The Palm Meadows Resort, which is inside the gates of Palm Meadows, has corporate apartments for rent. You should check them out.

Good luck.

Ravi/Usha said...

This has been a very useful blog.
Like you have rightly said - rents in Palm Meadows are just unbelievable. Ozone has some houses within our budget. Was wondering how Ozone stacks up against Palm Meadows?
Thanks for your time!!

madhavi said...

I accidentally found your blog when searching for some info on whitefield,bangalore.I have to say I have enjoyed reading it so far and thanks for sharing it with us. Like U I have born and brought up in Jayanagar. Last 14 or so years been living in London and planning to move back to India in the near future. We have been browing the net for for some projects and there are some really nice developments coming up in whitefield. Having stayed there recently what has been your exp... what is hard for people to come and visit u and vice versa.. I really would like both my kids to know their immediate and extended family well.. If you can give me any info that would be great... Thanks once again

Madhavi

ranibee said...

I found your blog when looking for housing in Bangalore. Could someone tell me what the average rent is at Palm Meadows? An agent has quoted me $2500.

Sujatha said...

Madhavi, the issues would be traffic and distance. Although Marathahalli is fast becoming as central a location as any especially if work at ITPL or on the Outer Ring Road, it is still a long way away from the more established neighborhoods of Bangalore, like Basavanagudi, Malleswaram (although they are building a bypass road from Malleswaram), Jayanagar, etc. So if you are willing to put up with the distance and the traffic, then there is no reason not to live around the Whitefield area. Good luck with the move.


Ranibee, that seems to be the lower end of the range. Does not mean you cannot bargain and negotiate the price down, though. Perhaps you can also ask for the Club House membership, which is a hefty monthly expense in itself.